Parva, not trying to thwart my own "crusade", but the majority of votes favor more than two engineers - just there is the most votes on 2 itself.

Well, Pyros are actually able to remove sappers faster than Engies can. I understand the upgrade situation, but with 2 Engies on a team it shouldn't be that difficult to upgrade the other persons gear on your way out of spawn. For These reasons I think 2 engys and Pyros who use the Homewrecker/Maul/Neon Annihilator are fine.

As for the comments of "Just go medic and demo them", we try. But 3 Level 3 SGs on the top of the ramp gives Immense push back and makes being directly offensive to a nest of engies near impossible. This also brings up something that annoys Me which is Increased demo spam. More Engies encourages more stickies all over the damn place. I hate that noise.

Also, another note from my personal Preference. I play medic to do some fun pushes through places and to play a bit of battle medic. I find it fun to push in with a team mate, switch out to my uber saw to defend myself, run away to regain health/build over over time. Its a lot more active.

A nest of 3 SG's is just a ball ache. A wall of bullets. I mean, don't get me wrong, 2 is still difficult to take on. But playing against a team with this playstyle Forces me to sit back... Build uber... Attempt an attack, get blasted back... Sit back again... Build uber again... Rince and repeat.

This isn't fun for a medic.

A pair of engies is hard, but achievable with a friendly Demo/Solly. Maybe even a Pyro or Heavy. depending on its location. With 3, its basically push an Uber with a Demo or don't even try.

Still. Its all down to preference. I am okay with the Short Circuit... Annoying as fuck but it serves its purpose with out being too powerful. I WOULD be okay with the Wrangler if it didn't give the sentry such high damage resistance. Damage output and firing out of its standard LoS is fine to me.

Mini Sentries are a fucking joke in my eyes.

Again, my preferences. Feel free to disagree. I'll still play here.

What a load of bollocks!!

i'm a soldier i hate sentries

i'm an engi i hate spies

i'm a heavy i hate snipers

i'm a sniper i hate spies

i'm any class i hate ubers

ban them all ffs

yawn yawn yawn

Opinion seems to be pretty much divided at the moment, but there aren't many great arguments against dropping the class limit OR blacklisting the wrangler. As slightly reduced number of teleporters seems to be the only thing bothering everyone.

+1

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Well, I for one would like the scout slot to be upgraded to 2 slots because mary sometimes hogs it before I can

I for one think the class limits are fine n make for a well balanced game.


Engy seems to be the most raged from class so someone must be able to blow their stuff up.

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Balls this is a forum and your topic is perfect for legitimate discussion. No one means to shoot you down, we just ventilating differing opinion.... Nice one Balls !

Nothing gets Nutters argueing more than class limits, its worse than discussing politics and religeon lol.

When I have command of the server their will only be one class only...sniper. Be afriad.

And stop the +1 usage !

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Hey, you don't speak for me. I mean to shoot Balls down, but my aim isn't good enough. Damned rocket jumping sollies But that means you will never play Daz, since everyone knows you never play sniper.

HQ reply JJ totally agree !

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Agree with Astroman cos he not from Wigan and has 4 brains.

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+1

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Limit reset to 3 and will stay so. I'm not messing anymore because it's just a lose lose situation. It's taken years, yes YEARS of refinement to get the server to its current state. GTFO and Fragmasters have tried to rip off my idea and to a large extent, they've done well. Fragmasters certainly populates more than ours does. Do I want to remove all class limits and have a game where I'm repeatedly snipered from a mile away? No I don't. Let 07 sit empty all day and have at least 2 hours of quality play rather than 8 hours of noobfest.

Resetting engineers to three and snipers off tonight - Wednesday!

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Nice one. The poll now 7 for 2, 6 for 3 and 5 for no limit.

A good discussion Balls I enjoyed the excitement. It's a shame sponge wasn't about to join in

I also don't go to these Wigan carnivals.

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